Children filming fights for Youtube etc.

Many of the attacks are worse because the cameras are there

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6920817.stm

Do you think that it's parents or teachers responsibility to prevent such events, or should the websites showing this material (and therefore making money) take responsibility?

Have your say.

Well, it's not the websites' faults. As they say, they have to mostly rely on users flagging videos because they can't exactly monitor the hundreds of thousands of videos that are posted daily.

I think that it's not a Gods given right for websites to grow uncrontrollably.

The likes of google/youtube can afford more staff to moderate. If they can't moderate more, then limit the amount of new uploads apprearing.

If kids are thinking it's an achievment to put sick content online, they're going to do it more. The sites should be more responsible.

All I know is that if people were using my sites to post harmful content that I couldn't control, I'd close them tomorrow.

Even with hundreds of moderators, there's still going to be videos that slip through the cracks and aren't noticed straight away which is exactly the problem YouTube talked about.

Obviously I understand what you're saying and in an ideal world they wouldn't slip through.

@andy, the only videos I've seen flagged that haven't been removed (on YouTube at least), are just ones that are inappropriate for younger people, nothing like what the topic is about.

As for the website owner that refused to remove the videos, I agree that's wrong. Which website was it anyway can you remember?

i don't remember , other than youtube was one of them - basically this is what panorama was saying - they flagged/asked for many to be removed as part of their investigatio and they weren't and when the various owners were asked why they agreed that the videos were offensive and promised to remove them but when panorama checked they were still on there. This was one of the points panorama were making - even allowing for the odd one to slip through the site owners still weren't being responsible nor removing offensive clips as promised. Most of the comments i've made are just echoing what panorama is highlighting - these sites say they are trying but clearly they aren't!
The kids with sawn off shotguns and hand guns were on utube and utube REFUSED to remove them claiming there was nothing wrong with them - these were youths from liverpool gangs who also vanadalised police cars and openly threatened to KILL police and rival gang members with the weapons they were showing yet utube claim there is nothing wrong with them. The police's attitude was if utube are making money out of this they should put some of it back into "policing/vetting" the clips and not rely on tax payers to have to ffoot the bill for police having to do it - also Utube will only pass on information -even for videos of illegal activities - when served with legal documents forcing them to do so - their policy is NOT to help the police prevent/prosecute crime unless absolutely forced to and utube defended their policy - very socialy responsible i must say.
Utube are in it for the money and made it very clear that is the only thing they were interested in.
If as you say they are removed how come the main guy they interviewed was still waiting for the clip of him being beaten unconcious to be removed 6 weeks after both he and his parents had asked utube to remove it. Another that they asked utube to remove was of a woman cycling through a park when a youth jumps out of the bushes and hits her in the face with a baseball bat - utube refused to remove it!annd also refused to disclose any information about it!IMO this sort of response from utube and the likes simply encourages the idiots that think its funny and certainly doesn't help prevent more inocent people from being hurt.
As panorama pointed out obviously there is always going to be 1 or 2 that slip through but there are hundreds on there and as long as utube refuses to delete them imediately the message being sent out is that its ok to post them and if thats the case people are going to continue to attack inocent victims to get"good" clips to post.
I'm sorry cefca i fail to see how you can defend these morons and wonder if you'd feel so strongly aout defending them if it was you or your family who was videoed being beaten up and who utube then said in their opinion it wasn't an offensive video.
these scum that post the clips are no better than peadophiles and as sch should be named and shamed in the same waywith their details passed onto the police not protected and encouraged by the websites.


TBH i wasn't even aware these sort of clips were on there until i saw the panorama programme (i guess you have to be looking for them)